George Stephanopoulos

Joe Biden's town hall event on ABC averaged around 13.9 million viewers while President Donald Trump's had around 13 million viewers across three different channels.

"The words of a president matter, no matter whether they’re good, bad or indifferent, they matter. When a president doesn’t wear a mask, or makes fun of folks like me when I was wearing a mask for a long time, then people say it mustn’t be that important," Biden told host George Stephanopoulos on ABC.